Using Numbers To Find The Most Difficult NBA Championship Ever Won

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    1. wilson yan

      This stats seems wrong is some way, not lakers fault when the bucks or any high srs rate in the east this year lost to a low srs rate heat

    2. Tyler Brown

      How u gonna say 2008 Celtics had it easy with LeBron and the Cavs Josh Smith and the Hawks and don't forget Kobe and the Lakers for gods sake they had it rough even with the big 3

    3. Yossi Yaari

      I like. I would add some metrics to the results of the playoffs themselves. A) a sweep is more convincing than a 7th game win B) to the Sixers example - if they beat 3 teams some with stronger SRS, then they should get some of that as "virtual SRS" points.

    4. ICE_Godzillasoup

      This system is crazy flawed. U don’t actually know the skill of the team it’s just all relative to the teams that season.

    5. Crying Jordan

      Coming from a Jordan fan, y’all will do anything to discredit Lebron. Why can’t we appreciate greatness while it’s here instead of taking it for granted?

    6. Chaz Johnson

      This SRS stat is trash because it does not take into account the fact that the Lakers beat the teams that beat the teams with the highest SRS, Heat beat bucks Denver beat Clippers Lakers beat them both so how do you factor that in , you play the team that is in front of you this video is trash and is a LeBron hater video

    7. Marcus Johnson burner Aka mr clean

      I’m the real Marcus Johnson

    8. Marcus Johnson burner Aka mr clean

      I’m the real Marcus Johnson

    9. miguel panta

      dirk nowitzki, amazing💪☺️

    10. a p

      I mean we all human...that’s probably a reason why the two best teams don’t make it to the finals...

    11. Alejandro Lozano Aguas

      The only issue I have with this is, as always, referring to these as "Kobe's championships." He was the second banana for 3 of them, and advanced metrics place him at the same level of importance as Pau Gasol for the latter two. If you want to say that any championship is X player's and player X is the best player on team, then three of those "Kobe championships" are really Shaq's.

    12. TITAN DMC

      Contradiction u just said how easy Brons path was then highlight had bad the Cavs were total foolishness.The 80s were entirely toucher in the sense that u had 2 of the greatest teams ever against one another in Lakers vs Celtics.Now lets really talk the bad boy pistons clearly had the hardest championship runs having to go through Boston and the Lakers are u kidding the EYE TEST wins again.

    13. Jackson Huang

      This kind of analysis is simply not informative. Sum of a series of scores does reflect some properties of a set of data, however, not all of them. More importantly, the properties that summing cannot represent are actually very crucial on evaluating the difficulty of a championship. One of these properties is the difference between the highest score of the opponents that a championship team beats and themselves. Another one is that how good the league is at that specific year. The reason is simple, ask yourself, will 2017 GSW win the 2020 title with the same difficulty if we swap them with 2020 lakers? Think about it, what the probability is for 2018 Cavs to beat a team with 2 all stars, one of which is a superstar, and what the probability is for them to beat a team with 4 all star, two of which are superstars, and a bunch excellent role players. The probability for a specific team to beat another team that is superior than them is significantly smaller than he probability for them to beat another team that is not obviously better than them. For example, suppose there is a team with SRS of 7, to win champion they need to beat 4 teams with SRS rating 4, 5, 6, 7 respectively (summing up to 22). Suppose the chance they beat a team that has the same or less SRS is higher than 50% (which is a fair assumption). Then, the probability they win a champion is the probability they beat all 4 teams, which is at least 0.5^4 = 6.25%. However, what if the four teams they have to beat have SRS rating of 2, 3, 4, 13 (again, summing up to 22)? What is the probability of team with SRS of 7 beats a team with SRS with 13? Did anyone think there is at least 6.25% chance for 2016 Cavs to beat 2016 GSW when they were down 3-1? In conclusion, what I am trying to say is that simply summing up the SRS scores to evaluate the difficulty of a champion is nonsense. You cannot say because Kobe & Shaq in their 3 peat had the opponents with some of the highest sum of SRS scores, their championships worth more than Lebron, Kyrie and Love's title in 2016. You did not even consider that fact that Kobe & Shaq's Lakers were consider to be the obviously better team in two of their three championship runs, whereas 2016 Cavs were on the opposite side. In the history of NBA, the team that was considered better usually wins the title (if not all). So the titles which were won by the worse teams will always be more valuable than those won by better teams. Period.

    14. KEG 90

      Jxmy "I saw that jon bois video with all the dots and I'm STILL recovering" Highroller

    15. Arexis Ghastly

      How tf does LeBron have the easiest championship runs? In the finals, 2020: fair enough. 2012, they faced KD, Westbrook, Ibaka and a bunch of solid role/bench players. 2013, they faced the Spurs dynasty that's considered one of the greatest teams ever. 2016, they came back 3-1 (never been done) against 73-9 Warriors (greatest finals in history). That doesn't make any sense. Kobe's first 3 chips don't demand that high of a difficulty level. His last 2 on the other hand were very impressive, especially with the team he had. MJ's first 4 chips weren't as difficult as shown in the graph. His last two against the Jazz are definitely up there. Overall, this graph makes zero sense.

      1. Arexis Ghastly

        @Estarlin Castro KD was still a beast. 30.6 PPG on 55% FG. Westbrook 27PPG on 44% from the field. Ibaka was an elite defender too. That Thunder team weren't no cakewalk.

      2. Estarlin Castro

        Bruh he beat a baby Durant and a James harden coming off the bench.

    16. sam sparks

      what I was thinking what was the srs of the loosing teams in the finals cause for example the 2018 warriors against the Cavs where the Cavs prolly didn't have a very high srs same goes for teams like the Mavericks when they beat heat in the finals. but the one thing that's wrong with this stat is this only factors in regular szn so say I'm the 1 seed and I clinch and rest my star player for the last 2 weeks and we get blown out that srs will drop significantly from those 2 weals and this also doesnt factor in injuries either cause say 2019 raptors without facing kd or klay their srs isn't nearly as high as it was before. and this also doesnt factor in regular szn injuries either cause without injuries blazers would have most likely been a 3-4 seed and their srs would have been wayyy higher. overall this is a good graph and shows how good each teams was each year but their is also a lot of cons to this graph as well.

    17. leonard

      the 2004 PIstons should have been in the TOP 10 at least

    18. Denien82

      This makes no sense for so many reasons. SRS seem to imply that regular and playoff strenght are the same (ask D'Antoni about that XD ). So, for example, if you consider Heat's SRS I'm guessing is pretty low, but if you consider just the playoffs (before meeting LA) that would be astronomical. Also, it is true that this Lakers faced a weaker opposition than past teams, but it's not their fault Clips, Celtics and Bucks crushed and burned.

    19. motobasfan

      Rockets 6th seed winning. Beat n3 seed,n2 seed and n1 seed to get to the finals. Insane.

    20. Dar Eus

      Bro this metric aside just consider the injuries from the first round all the ways to the finals this 2020 championship wasnt just easy it was a cake walk and it apparent because see the type of players they looking to trade for because the real competitors KD, kyrie, Steph, Klay etc are back next season the cake walk is over media fanboys and Lebron's fan base have them as the favorite but they know it's a toss up all the BS they talk about Steph and KD they know how lethal these guys are at shooting the ball

    21. Jumis Ramen

      Hardest has to be The Mavs championship run in 2012 that ring is crazy

    22. azan kutso

      Lol did the SRS calculate covid and BLM issues wow...🤔

    23. Ugly God

      I would compare the other teams srs as well cuz the heat went up against insane teams aswell (I didn’t watch the full vid yet so idk)

    24. Bebe Kilabot

      Lebron has the skills and era luck for easy championship. He should have at least 2-3 more championship so that no one will argue his greatness.

    25. Rawsome Awesome

      What I learned is the Shaq and Kobe Lakers are the best team of all time. Also, isn’t it kinda odd that the 76ers ruined their playoff streak when it was literally AI by himself

    26. Marvin Jean

      Are you gonna tell me the 2018 warriors didn’t have a easy path

    27. Radomir

      Dont agree at all, a championship is a championship, nuff said!!!

    28. Quincy Lockett

      If you real B ball fan we all have to shit up because if our city would have won it we would have been happy....so let's not Hate and Let them be Happy!

    29. Quincy Lockett

      But if thats the case then why LeBron...I love Our King but I am hometown first 🤘🏿town 🚀s all day oooooh And we have the Hardest 🤘🏿🤘🏿

    30. Shreeyans Bhavaraju

      This doesn't mean anything. This doesn't account for the virus, the loss of Kobe, being placed in a bubble and having to go through teams that were all supposed to beat the Lakers. There was the bubble Blazers, the small ball Rockets, and the 3-1 Nuggets. This doesn't actually determine how easy/hard the championship was.

    31. Ryan Ruiz

      I think the most difficult one has to be magic and bird's Era

    32. Testsubject

      Being known as Lebron fanboy but still being this honest gives you all time high cred and respect Jxmy

    33. Elmo Roman

      Lebron sucks

    34. Jorge Reyes

      Shaq and Kobe showing their greatness, with their 3-peat all in the top 5

    35. awaaljowder

      Your voice is sooooo smooth jimmy boy 🙌❤️

    36. Crown Ary

      My guess is Dirk Nowitzki’s ring.

    37. Tom Gerbic

      The Cavs 2016 has to be the hardest considering they were down 3-1

      1. Pedro Augusto Costa

        It's not only the finals, it's the full playoffs, and the series doesn't matter, if you sweep or won in 7 its just not change the SRS, and by the eye test, team record and SRS, so the 1995 was the hardest and greatest title ever.

    38. Cris Marte

      "Rarely that the best 2 teams ever met in the finals" This statement helps Kobe's case in the goat debate tremendously imo. Coz 2 out the 3 championship run he had with Shaq, Kobe was arguably the MVP against the best overall team they faced in the playoffs. Based on their SRS all the teams they faced in the Western Conference Finals were far better than who they faced in the NBA finals. No one in their right mind would argue that the Pacers, Sixers and Nets were a better team than the TrailBlazers, Spurs and Kings in those particular years. Plus Shaq having the much more favorable match ups against guys like a 33 yr old Rick Smits, 34 yr old Mutombo and a role player in Jason Collins favored him to put up bigger numbers which secured him as the 3x FMVP during those runs, while Kobe were matched up against Miller, Iverson and Kidd. The average fans wont even look at these details, and jump in that "Shaq carried Kobe" bandwagon. This disrespect need to stop!

    39. Pecker Doodle

      So... Kobe’s the goat? 👀

    40. Anthony Samuel

      Thats why Kobe is my GOAT

    41. Greg Ostertag

      So the team record of your opponent is an indicator? What if 12/15 teams in the conference are bad....won’t the top 3 teams have a great records? In which case, their record is no indicator of their talent. Ie Reggie Miller and Patrick Ewing are somehow superior to Kareem, Magic, Worthy, Dumars, Thomas, Malone, Dr. J.....yeah, gotcha. Anybody who thinks the 84 road the Celtics took is easier than the any year the bulls won is a fucking moron

    42. Greg Ostertag

      It’s a bullshit list and exactly why stats/numbers don’t mean shit. The 1984 Celtics had one of the easiest roads? Jesus Christ

    43. JZA

      LeBron made the East finals on a weak East 3 seconds later.... Lakers had the easiest pass on the West. Is there something to be said about how dominant this guy was instead of saying how easy this guy had it? Whats the difference? Is like arguing that LeBron is not a good player because he shut the other team down by the 3rd quarter so he never faced a challenge.... is a huge double speak.

    44. JZA

      I can see how that graph will give it to the laker, but that said, there is a different graph that says that many top heavy teams got beaten earlier. Like Bucks and Clippers. IF the heat would have beat the lakers in 7 I think they will be close to the 95 Rockets. Same thing with the Raptors last year which had to beat Bucks and Sixers in close series.

    45. austin Towns

      This whole video is a well thought out opinion but their are clear flaws in srs.

    46. What's the word ya'll

      Honestly seems super flawed. A lot of teams turn it up in the playoffs, but their srs is low because they chilled in the regular season.

    47. Parsa Shobeiri

      No matter the difficulty or the numbers, the 2016 Finals were the sweetest for me personally. I’m glad I was able to watch it.

    48. Kayden Davis

      Dope

    49. Kaedon Halliday

      Early 2000s basketball was not competitive. Look at the east . It’s a lot worse than it is now and people say the east is weak now

    50. marksdad10

      Great video. I love it

    51. M2J 02

      So injuries are not taken into account?

    52. Martin Liu

      these championships just built different

    53. Carlsbad Mountain Biker

      Good one Jimmy! Keep it up.

    54. nineseven

      shows how mentally weak today players are compared to LeBron James and company....

    55. SummerAwe99

      This just goes strictly by team record... no unmeasurables like no fans causing underdogs to play better, reduced travel etc.

    56. N8 DAWG #BARR-NONE

      It was fixed like all of em rip nba rip Kobe!

    57. Nat Turnr

      People are too easily fooled. When the conversation comes up about Lakers winning the most difficult championship, it's only on the mental aspect, not the teams they faced. Trying to give Bron credit, while underhandedly h8ing on him at the same time. Sheesh! Ignorance has to be bliss, and jelousy and envy, must run extremely deep!

    58. Dhea Algani

      hey bro, can you make a video talking about lebron james prime year? he's 35 and still dominating nba since 2007

    59. My Interesting Facts

      the 2016 cavs should be on the number 1 because they made the toughest comeback in nba finals history

    60. Daniel Cruz Music

      I'll remember not to watch videos from here again. Whew! yeah i get it, its jordan and kobe yeah its them alright no one else so yeah

    61. Marshall Gelder

      Hey keep making these awesome videos man. I love how you study the game.

    62. Cole

      One stat just ended all bron fans

    63. Yuval Zemach

      Where would the heat rank if they won?

    64. Pumpkin Spice

      I wanna know the SRS ratings of the finals that Lebron didn't win. And did he not win them because they were difficult or was it something else?

    65. kolim jone

      said 16-1. The lakers actually did go 15-1 in the playoffs that year, as first round series were best 3 of 5 until 2003

      1. kolim jone

        Too many numbers

    66. Denpamori

      Didn't know Kobe first 3peat with Shaq was a hell of a journey

    67. darealcdj

      espn need to hire this dude

    68. Jay

      It ain't the Lakers fault that the Bucks and Clippers lost in the 2nd round! Heart and chemistry don't show up as stats!

    69. xMusic

      Another proof that LeBron, doesn't even deserve being talked as goat. MJ,Kobe where much greater at there time than the 3rd guy.

    70. Bam Adebayo

      Calling me easy to beat